| travis
- 11 Aug 2009
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I've created a webpage to display snapshots of ratings and rankings, which can be viewed here:
http://airhockeyworld.com/rankingsnapshot.asp
Eventually, this will include a bunch of historical snapshots of USAA world rankings, including pre-tournament rankings (to help with the seeding process), as well as old rankings found on Table Talk archives.
You can also get to this page by clicking on the "Rankings" link on the main navigation bar, and then clicking the "View Historical Rankings Snapshots" link at the top of the page.
Travis Luscombe
AirHockeyWorld.com Webmaster
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| Laz
- 11 Aug 2009
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That's pretty cool, especially as more time goes by.
Laz
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| travis
- 12 Aug 2009
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Thanks...
I've now posted the pre-nationals USAA World Rankings dating back to 2005.
Travis Luscombe
AirHockeyWorld.com Webmaster
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| wmd
- 15 Aug 2009
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problem in Illinois, Nick Harbacek Mike Yarbrough and Geoff Oidtman don't seem to exist. I understand it's hard to track down ninjas given that we laugh at existence anyways but whats Geoff's excuse?
Nick Harbacek ( IL )
IL has the W.M.D. =)
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| travis
- 18 Aug 2009
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Hrm... that's odd, I'll check it out.
Travis Luscombe
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| travis
- 18 Aug 2009
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It should be fixed now going forward.
-T
Travis Luscombe
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| carolina phil
- 18 Aug 2009
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Thanks.
Phil
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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| how far back can we post matches that affect ratings. i have some from five years ago or so that i'd like to enter as well as three weeks ago. does it matter when they are entered?
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| TheAirHockeyGuy
- 16 Jul 2012
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jsbritton said: | how far back can we post matches that affect ratings. i have some from five years ago or so that i'd like to enter as well as three weeks ago. does it matter when they are entered? |
"Full match results, including all of the game scores, should be recorded on AirHockeyWorld.com within 10 days from the day they were played in order to be accepted"
Chris Lee
USAA Senior Board Member
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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TheAirHockeyGuy said: jsbritton said: | how far back can we post matches that affect ratings. i have some from five years ago or so that i'd like to enter as well as three weeks ago. does it matter when they are entered? |
"Full match results, including all of the game scores, should be recorded on AirHockeyWorld.com within 10 days from the day they were played in order to be accepted" |
all right. the ones from about two weeks ago rather than five years ago i will enter :)
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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i just read the ratings explanation page again and it does not contain your quote chris. i have never heard of this ten day cut off and the five player rule is inherantly flawed and will mess up seedings which involve GA players as well as all foriegn players. the one year rule is even more flawed. at minimim it should be two.
how am i going to be seeded accurately. i have missed three tournaments due to personal health reasons, and i am about to miss the next one based on an injury from playing my first mitic sets (only because the rare opportunity arrived that out of state players are in town). the one year rule and the five player rule are guarenteed to mess this system up. other than my elbow right now ... i am playing far better than i was in my my last few tournaments.
memorable tournament matches of mine in the last few years are 4-0 beating nick geoffroy on no sleep ... lazaro garcia on no sleep 4-0 ... i 4-0'd jason sherman on no sleep. i had goran at match point either way at the TCO and had davis lee at match game either way at the TCO. ...but i can't maintain a rating without traveling hundreds of miles to play a single set. this system is already shooting itself in the foot.
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| Q
- 16 Jul 2012
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I remember always seeing 10 day cutoff in the rules. If I'm wrong there, worst case it was in the rules when they were voted on within the last year or so. Anyone should be able to enter scores within 10 days of having played the sets/matches. That's plenty of time to put a quick post on the forums or enter them manually in the system.
The 5 player rule is not flawed. All this rule influences is whether or not your opponent's rating will be changed as a result of your match/set. It is meant to try and move your rating to a more accurate level (if it is not already there) before you enter the "active" category where your matches would then influence other established players' ratings. You still have a rating, you always will. (Click on "AHW 2012 Ratings Status". Going 1 year without a tournament or a small group of sets played seems like valid grounds to be marked as "inactive" to me.
If you're playing far better than you were at your last tournament...the system will reflect that once you actually have recent data entered. So again, to answer your last statement...you are maintaining a rating and if you were to show up at the nationals next week (based on current list of registered players) you'd probably be seeded in the 40s out of 90 something people as opposed to the USAA seed/ranking method of low 50s or lower seed. Seems like the system works to me.
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| travis
- 16 Jul 2012
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Travis Luscombe
AirHockeyWorld.com Webmaster
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| jasonstevens
- 16 Jul 2012
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| Looks like someone didn't read the website. Oh, well hopefully lesson learned.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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| ok ... i have no idea how i missed that sentence ... but i also noticed the word should. are you going to tell me that some sets played about 14 days ago will not count just becuaes none of us were aware of this new rule. i am the only GA player that even reads the forums, and steve porreca from PA isn't normally active due to hearrt issues ... so no. none of us knew that it mattered that the results sat on a table for a few extra days. obviously this crap doesn't concern anyone that lives in a city with more than 3 players ... however it does concern those of us who do.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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| all right ... an hour ago i didn't realize there was a third page to that. i got to the bottom of the second page and didn't keep scrolling. regardless the system as it stands does nothing but disservice people that do not happen to live in an air hockey hotbed.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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Q, obviously i would be playing many times over the course of an average year ... against the same two rated players. blade and john mitchell. not even don james comes out and i doubt he's rated either.
maybe it should be a priority to inform all the players somehow when the rules change. one forum cannot do that.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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jasonstevens said: | Looks like someone didn't read the website. Oh, well hopefully lesson learned. |
what website? remember there is no usaa website. luckily travis created this wonderful one here, but your point falls on deaf ears jason. i think many ... including brian have pointed this out rather bluntly in recent weeks. that this is NOT an offical usaa website. so what difference does it make that i am the only GA player that logs onto it from time to time in regards to recent rule changes... apparently more than it should.
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| travis
- 16 Jul 2012
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This isn't an "official" USAA website, but USAA information has been distributed here for the last several years. That includes the announcement back in May regarding the ratings changes. http://www.airhockeyworld.com/forummessages.asp?forum=11&thread=1245&page=1#threadend.
Travis Luscombe
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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i will look into that travis. thank you.
also, do not forget that according to this logic, not even one single challenge match between the houston 2010 board meeting and the vegas 2011 board meeting counts. all are null and void. a rule was put in place and voted in that ALL matches that were to be official, had to sent in an emial notification form to the current secretary of the usaa. i was the secretary and never once did i receive an email informing me of an official match taking place.
so we really need to go back and delete all of those matches with danny and nizzi etc. they don't count ... just like my one set against steve porreca maybe two weeks ago doesn't count, even though he flew 900 miles and then drove two hours to play ... due to the results sitting on a table for an extra day or two.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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the fact that this discussion is taking place is more evidence that the system is less than perfect. my ONLY goal here is to be listed as active in my status, because i am now. nothing more. i don't even remember the exact date i played steve and none of this will affect the seeding at the houston tournament.
these hurdles in my quest of being listed as actove are absurd at best. it is not my fault i am one of only three players who actually play in the state of GA.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
Total Posts: 658
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travis said:
no mention of a ten day day rule. good thing i cannot remember the date i played steve anyway.
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| Petesimple
- 16 Jul 2012
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jsbritton said: the fact that this discussion is taking place is more evidence that the system is less than perfect. my ONLY goal here is to be listed as active in my status, because i am now. nothing more. i don't even remember the exact date i played steve and none of this will affect the seeding at the houston tournament.
these hurdles in my quest of being listed as actove are absurd at best. it is not my fault i am one of only three players who actually play in the state of GA. |
No time like the present to start your own weekly or biweekly tournament in GA.
:)
~Pete
www.petesimple.com
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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No time like the present to start your own weekly or biweekly tournament in GA.
:)
~Pete
you are new aren't you? sigh. i've only been back in GA now for about two months after being gone for almost ten years. even if i suddenly had 200 players instead of two ... we'd all be unrated under the current system (except the two).
players that don't live in houston and chicago don't have to deal with this, so they either don't get it or don't care ... or both.
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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please find the logic and forgive the rant.
pete ... i am working on that actually. we have one location nearby that has two tables ... they are hot flash 2 tables sadly, but with a newer robbins yellow puck untaped ... they actually play ok.
i am on my way there right now to meet mitchell, blade, and rosen. i will be practicing left handed only ... (for at least three months).
i was planning to be in houston the night i injured my elbow in late june, but this is not an injury i am willing to aggravate as it would affect my entire life should it worsen ...
anyway. i am posting to give a tip of the mallet to all the gladiators that will be in houston next week. i am in a MUCH better place in my heart than i have been over the last few years, and i very much look forward to seeing all of you over the table in 2013.
jsb
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| jsbritton
- 16 Jul 2012
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| I was under the impression that it had to be five rated or previously rated players.
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| Q
- 16 Jul 2012
Total Posts: 465
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| Read the rules. All the answers to all of your questions of how it is done is listed there. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74265257/AHW%20Rating%20Rules.pdf
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| Petesimple
- 16 Jul 2012
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James,
Yes I am new and from the old forgotten guard, however I am a quick study. You only need 4 people to hold your weekly event. It never hurts to practice having an event, even of you are playin left handed. If you need help with charts Travis is your guy. He can set you up with a weekly for GA. I think it would be wonderful to see a new weekly where there has not been.
Anyhow, I understand if there are other commitments in your life and air hockey is just a hobby. However that being said wanting to be a part of the air hockey community should not be limited to whether or not you have an ability to play. There are movers and shakers in all sports that have never played or were injured with great stories such as yourself. Why not give back and start the new generation of air hockey folk where you are?
Anyhow that is my rant.
Think positive dude
:)
~pete
jsbritton said: please find the logic and forgive the rant.
pete ... i am working on that actually. we have one location nearby that has two tables ... they are hot flash 2 tables sadly, but with a newer robbins yellow puck untaped ... they actually play ok.
i am on my way there right now to meet mitchell, blade, and rosen. i will be practicing left handed only ... (for at least three months).
i was planning to be in houston the night i injured my elbow in late june, but this is not an injury i am willing to aggravate as it would affect my entire life should it worsen ...
anyway. i am posting to give a tip of the mallet to all the gladiators that will be in houston next week. i am in a MUCH better place in my heart than i have been over the last few years, and i very much look forward to seeing all of you over the table in 2013.
jsb |
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| jasonstevens
- 17 Jul 2012
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jsbritton said: the fact that this discussion is taking place is more evidence that the system is less than perfect. my ONLY goal here is to be listed as active in my status, because i am now. nothing more. i don't even remember the exact date i played steve and none of this will affect the seeding at the houston tournament.
these hurdles in my quest of being listed as actove are absurd at best. it is not my fault i am one of only three players who actually play in the state of GA. |
Calm down Beavis. 
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| jsbritton
- 17 Jul 2012
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jasonstevens said: jsbritton said: the fact that this discussion is taking place is more evidence that the system is less than perfect. my ONLY goal here is to be listed as active in my status, because i am now. nothing more. i don't even remember the exact date i played steve and none of this will affect the seeding at the houston tournament.
these hurdles in my quest of being listed as actove are absurd at best. it is not my fault i am one of only three players who actually play in the state of GA. |
Calm down Beavis. |
yea.. yea... ughughghgh
thanks butthead.
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